Should the Bible say “Lucifer” or “morning star” in Isaiah 14:12? Does it refer to Satan?
The King James Bible is correct. Although “Lucifer” is the Latin version of the name, the passage is talking about Satan, not a mere Babylonian king. “King James Bible Companion” David W Daniels, Author
January 28 2012 01:29 am | Religion & Spirituality
jomjohny on 10 Apr 2012 at 3:29 am #
JOHN 8:44 Satan was BAD SUPER BAD from the VERY beginning
RoCalSan on 10 Apr 2012 at 4:08 am #
Job 38:7 (KJV)
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy
Who is/are the morning star(s)?
jjpetkusiii on 10 Apr 2012 at 5:04 am #
Amen and amen, Borther!
As King James VI of Scotland and I of England put it so succinclty, “It is Atheism and blasphemy to dispute what God can do: good Christians content themselves with His will revealed in His word.”
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever” (Psalm 12:6ff).
No factual error anywhere in the King James Bible has ever been proven.
thebereanchannel on 10 Apr 2012 at 5:43 am #
I am amazed at how people treat KJV translators like they were imbecils. My Cambridge KJV footnotes says “or daystar”. They were very aware of the meaning behind the word. They simply were following a Latin tradition to describe the Hebrew word. I think they knew daystar would cause confusion, which it does. In addition, alot of commentators attribute this being a description of Satan behind the king mentioned. Great video man…Godbless. Once again, the KJV is right on…
edwardpf123 on 10 Apr 2012 at 6:21 am #
Amen! Thank you for posting!
NoaahsArk on 10 Apr 2012 at 6:42 am #
Who knows what Satan’s real angel name is? God does. But the fact is this. I believe what the Bible tells us. Satan/The Devil is the brightest most beautiful cherub and as Paul warns in 2 Cor 11:14 that He can masquerade as an angel of light. Well of course he can because I think most people think he’s red demon with horns (ridiculous). He convinced Mohamed and Joseph Smith to start false religions. Go figure. Father of all lies and a murderer from the start! Hmmmm…
bloodyswordisa63 on 10 Apr 2012 at 7:53 am #
Great Video Mark.
‘Lucifer’ is the correct reading as it is found in the KJV.
The word NEEDED for the absurd reading in Isa 14 as its found in the NIV for STAR (Kowkab) is not found in any manuscript on planet earth.
Clearly, what is happening in Isa 14:12 in the NIV is an attempt by Lucifer to be ‘like God’
The Devil tried to get Jesus to throw Himself down from the Temple, and being unsucessful, attempted to have Jesus ‘thrown down’ un Isa 14 in the NIV.
How you have FALLEN ‘morning Star
resurrectionway on 10 Apr 2012 at 9:13 am #
@hellavadeal and that Snake was the cleverest of all the beast of the field.
hellavadeal on 10 Apr 2012 at 9:52 am #
@resurrectionway There was a snake in that garden to.
Psalm9422 on 28 Jan 2012 at 5:19 am #
I love your insight and commentary. You often clear up something that previously had been confusing for me.
God Bless you brother.
neekothesecond on 28 Jan 2012 at 5:25 am #
Is this a trick question?
It should say what is already written…. “O Lucifer, son of the morning!
Jesus was peaking in past tense as to tell him what he has lost and is lost and fallen.
Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Jesus is the Morning star.
Read KJV only. In this passage alone in the NIV causes confusion.
dreamwarrior2008 on 28 Jan 2012 at 5:32 am #
Thank you so much for posting this video.
resurrectionway on 28 Jan 2012 at 6:10 am #
the book of Revelation is a book of future events Rev. 12 has not happen yet.
the bible says and the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan. if this was an event that took place already then it would be the cherub that is being cast out and not a dragon. Christ saw the devil not the cherub. the devil was created not some one that was good and later became evil.
resurrectionway on 28 Jan 2012 at 6:31 am #
Adam was created he was not born, God created him perfect and sinless until the day he sin. he is the only human that was not born and Evil wasn’t ether. Adam was in the Garden and may be he was the anointed cherub. the word cherub in this verse God could be using it to describe Adam.