King James Bible Only 3 – New Testament Canon
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The third video in a series examining the claims that the King James Bible should be the only version used by English speaking Christians. This video discusses the development of the Canon of the New Testament.
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August 26 2009 03:18 am | 2111
labarum312 on 26 Aug 2009 at 10:45 am #
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By the way, the gnostic movement was extremely strong in Syria around Antioch and the Gospel of Thomas was originally written in Syriac – so much for that idea. Ignorance is bliss?
labarum312 on 28 Aug 2009 at 1:00 pm #
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This is just one more case where you have made ridiculous assertions and when shown to be foolish you neither retract nor give futher evidence but quickly jump to another topic. I’m bored proving your ignorance. From now on we stay on one topic until one of us admits error. You still have yet to admit you were in error for your many assertions that modern Bibles were based on Westcott-Hort. Until you back that up or admit you were wrong, any further comments by you will be deleted.
labarum312 on 29 Aug 2009 at 7:41 pm #
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More KJV-Only idiocy. It proves you have never read the actual sources and are little more than a parrot. Clement only stated that the deacon Nicolas was not the same Nicolas from which the Nicolatians took their name. He did not approve of Nicolatianism. Check your facts before you blather again.
TheSearcher24 on 31 Aug 2009 at 9:30 pm #
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your very wrong. (Rev 2:15) So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I ****.
So who are the Nicolaitans? The deacon Nicolas was the author of the heresy and the sect (Philosph., VII, xxvi). Clement of Alexandria[3] exonerates Nicolas.
Hummm Alexandria. Do you Know who the agnostics were? The was a sect of Nicolaitans that were gnostic s . They come from Egypt and Alexandria as well.
labarum312 on 02 Sep 2009 at 7:47 am #
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Typical KJVOnly idiocy. The original text was inspired by God – not the KJV. And I have pointed out to you on about half a dozen occasions that Westcott & Hort are not used in any current Bible – those use recent editions of Nestle/Alland or UBS. But in typical KJVO fashion, you keep trotting out the same refuted arguments because you can only regurgitate the igrnorance spewed by other KJVOnlyists and you are incapable of actually dealing with reality.
TheSearcher24 on 04 Sep 2009 at 9:59 pm #
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So do you agree with Westcott or Hort or God. Westcott and Hort were not inspired by God.
labarum312 on 07 Sep 2009 at 7:04 am #
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So how long will it take you to get it through your head that NO NEW BIBLE USES WESTCOTT AND HORT???? There are massive differences between Westcott & Hort and Nestle/Alland.
labarum312 on 08 Sep 2009 at 12:45 pm #
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Interesting passage considering the KJVO movement is the one that divides Christians by absurdly insisting that a17th century translation of late medieval manuscripts is the one true Bible.
labarum312 on 11 Sep 2009 at 3:52 am #
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As I kept pointing out last time, Westcott and Hort is not used for any modern Bible. You just are incapable of getting this through your head because your cult has you convinced they were bogeymen. The fact is that they formed the Ghostly Guild to DEBUNK claims of sprits, etc and when it began to be taken over by occultists they left the group and denounced it. But since all you read are KJVO sources – who are largely liars and slanderers – you have no way of knowing this.
labarum312 on 13 Sep 2009 at 4:08 pm #
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The 45% difference is of course deceptive since English is a very expressive language with many different ways of saying the same thing. The Greek texts they are based upon, however, are generally the same and the number of variations is miniscule.
labarum312 on 13 Sep 2009 at 8:19 pm #
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Back again, I see. Well, you have not come up with much new. The verse in Mark 15:28 is simply not orginal to the text – it is not in the earliest manuscripts and Mark elsewhere rarely even mentions the Old Testament prophecies. It suddenly starts showing up in later manuscripts. If one reads the commentaries written by early Christians, they all knew the citation. What likely happened is that margin notes were made that eventually became part of the text.
TheSearcher24 on 14 Sep 2009 at 5:07 pm #
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(2Jn 1:9) Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
(2Jn 1:10) If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
(2Jn 1:11) For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
TheSearcher24 on 17 Sep 2009 at 8:06 pm #
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So why read us a translation from Westcott and Hot.
remember (2Jn 1:9) Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.10) If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:11) For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
So your going to bring their translation into your house.
TheSearcher24 on 20 Sep 2009 at 12:30 pm #
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, then look at the Alexandrian manuscript’s ,or the Westcott and Hort’s translation of the Alexandrian which they favored.
Oh and Westcott and Hort started this thing called the Ghostly Gill ed. They entertained spirits what does the God say this is?(2Ki 23:24) Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem,
(Isa 8:19-20)
TheSearcher24 on 21 Sep 2009 at 7:09 pm #
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Well all the other manuscript’s that the N.I.V are the same one’s use for all new version’s.
The thing about the k.j.v manuscript’s and the Alexandrian manuscript’s. Is that when translated they are only us 45% of the same word’s. Like word’s : it, the, that , what, in, on, no, know now, and, it’s or word’s like that their No way similar is verses because the Alexandrian manuscript’s are missing verses like fulfillment of Scripture look and see if you can find Mark 15:28,then look at Isa.53:12
rb300dx on 23 Sep 2009 at 11:01 am #
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labarum312… I appreciate all the valid points you make. It’s obvious having read the comments that TheSearcher24 is mostly cutting and pasting from KJVO sources. He is as ignorant as the rest who would rather believe a lie than accept the Truth. You have easily refuted every lie and contention presented. It’s obvious who is being schooled here. I applaud you on your patience with that illiterate idiot. Keep posting the excellent and truly informative video’s my brother.
labarum312 on 23 Sep 2009 at 5:53 pm #
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The easiest one to read is the NIV but I just think that is a not very good translation. The problem is not with the Greek manuscripts but they made a lot of errors in translating into English (they apparently didn’t know the difference between a capstone and a cornerstone). The KJV is actually harder for many people because of archaic words – unless you grew up with it and were used to it.
labarum312 on 23 Sep 2009 at 8:39 pm #
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They are completely different translations. The RV used Westcott/Hort but the RSV and ESV used Nestle/Aland.
labarum312 on 23 Sep 2009 at 8:59 pm #
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Why would Newton criticize Rome for denying the divinity of Christ if he didn’t believe it himself?
Check out the Newton biographies. He actually believed Rome invented the divinity of Christ.
labarum312 on 26 Sep 2009 at 10:47 am #
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The RSV did not use Westcott/Hort. It used Nestle/Aland.
TheSearcher24 on 27 Sep 2009 at 10:24 pm #
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All I have been saying is that those other version aren’t really good to start of on because those version are mostly written on a 8th or 9th reading level, a K.J.V is a 5th grade level and it’s better for knew saved. For them to grow in the faith.
TheSearcher24 on 28 Sep 2009 at 6:35 pm #
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The R.S.V goes of the R.V that was out in 1881.
So does the E.S.V long time later.
labarum312 on 30 Sep 2009 at 5:29 pm #
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The thing is that I have not gone out and attacked people who use the King James Bible. You are the one accusing me and anyone who uses some other version of being in league with the pope or satan or some other evil force. How do you expect people to react? Especially when you haven’t taken the time to examine the other side of the issue.
TheSearcher24 on 30 Sep 2009 at 9:05 pm #
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The interesting do your R.S.V missing any verses? It most likely is.
Why?
Codex Vaticanus is one of the most important manuscripts for the text of the Septuagint and Greek New Testament, it is a leading member of the Alexandrian text-type. It was heavily used by Westcott and Hort in their edition, The New Testament in the Original Greek (1881)
TheSearcher24 on 01 Oct 2009 at 9:14 pm #
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I’m apparently aware that Newton denied the divinity of Christ.
He blames “the Roman church” for many abuses in the world and accuses it of “pious frauds”.
Why because the catholic church so called bibles denied the divinity of Christ. With those other ones missing as well like Mark. 15:28, as well as others.